Inverse Podcast

Richard Rohr describes James Alison as “Intellectual dynamite and spiritual joy”. N.T. Wright has said, “The lessons he draws are striking and at times controversial, but it's hard to see how one can disagree with him without denying the very foundations of the Christian faith.” While Rowan Williams has praised his work as marked by, “wit, clarity, depth and surprises.” In this episode we explore the reality, “it’s only as you’ve sunk into your complicity that you can be saved.” Join our Integral Discipleship community on Patreon: [patreon.com/InVerse](http://www.patreon.com/InVerse)

Lee Camp is funny! His new book "Scandalous Witness" is brilliant. Volf says, "With characteristic intelligence, humour, and grace, Lee Camp argues that the American church today has has earned itself the curious distinction of having largely 'destroyed its own witness.'" Drew Hart asks Lee what Jarrod was like as a student in 2001 before discussing Matthew 5:38-48. [leeccamp.com](http://www.leeccamp.com) Join our Integral Discipleship community on Patreon: [patreon.com/InVerse](http://www.patreon.com/InVerse)

Dr Danny Zacharias is a Cree man from Treaty 1 territory in the lands now called Canada. He serves as Professor of New Testament studies at Acadia Divinity College in Wolfville, Nova Scotia, where he lives with his wife and 4 children. He also serves as a professor with NAIITS Indigenous Learning Community.[DannyZacharias.net](http://dannyzacharias.net) Dr Mick Pope has a PhD in Meteorology, and is currently completing a Masters degree, examining Genesis 1-2 as a basis for ethics in the Anthropocene. He is the author of three books looking at climate change from a Christian perspective. Join our Integral Discipleship community on Patreon: [patreon.com/InVerse](http://www.patreon.com/InVerse)

A former Young Australian of the Year, my dear friend Akram Azimi overcame the challenges of a refugee background to study law, science and arts at the University of Western Australia. Raised a Muslim, he has had a keen fascination with Christianity and ‘the man riding a donkey’ that is its central figure. Over the last 10 years, he has taught science and law at W.A. universities and mentored young people from disadvantaged backgrounds. The co-founder of the NGO ‘I am the Other’ he has helped mobilise 25,000 Australians to change government policy on polio eradication which could see polio eradicated by 2018. Join our Integral Discipleship community on Patreon: [patreon.com/InVerse](http://www.patreon.com/InVerse)

D. L. Mayfield lives and writes on the outskirts of Portland, OR with her husband and two small children. Her first book of essays, "Assimilate or Go Home: Notes from a Failed Missionary on Rediscovering Faith" was released by HarperOne in 2016. Her second book, "The Myth of the American Dream: Reflections on Affluence, Autonomy, Safety, and Power" will be released in April 2020. Her writing has appeared in a variety of places, including McSweeneys, Christianity Today, Sojourners, The Washington Post, Image Journal, Vox, and The Rumpus, among many others. She is trying very hard to be a good neighbor. More from D. L. at [dlmayfield.com/](http://www.dlmayfield.com/) Join our Integral Discipleship community on Patreon: [patreon.com/InVerse](http://www.patreon.com/InVerse)

Rev. Dr. Otis Moss III has freedom preaching power in his DNA. The son of Civil Rights legend Rev. Dr. Otis Moss Jr., “OM3” is to his father as Kendrick Lamar is to John Coltrane: a Hop-Hop improvisation on genius contributing to new forms of greatness for a new generation. He is the Senior Pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, a phenomenal foretaste of God’s reign on the South Side of Chicago, that Michelle Obama has recently reminded us in her memoir is where she and Barack Obama worshipped and were married. Yet Trinity is not just a church community that contributes to the formation of Presidents. Through the guidance of Rev Dr Otis Moss III, Trinity continues to be a living continuation of the civil rights movement that is ‘unapologetically black, unashamedly Christian’. OM3’s anointed preaching is unashamed in calling people to Christ and calling society to respond to the injustice of mass incarceration, environmental degradation, and economic inequality. In this episode Drew and Jarrod discuss with

In lockdown? Got kids? We consider Deut. 6:4-9 with my dear friends Lusanda and Mahlatse Mashua from RZIM South Africa and Luke Norsworthy from Newsworthy with Norsworthy. Join our Integral Discipleship community on Patreon: [patreon.com/InVerse](http://www.patreon.com/InVerse)

We love Kelley Nikondeha. Her new book “DEFIANT: What the Women of Exodus Teach Us about Freedom” is out today. Get it!: [Kelley's book](http://www.amazon.com/Defiant-Women-Exodus-Teach-Freedom/dp/0802864295) As well as being a theologian and writer, Kelley co-director of [Communities of Hope](http://www.facebook.com/Communities-of-Hope-204498546283015/), a community development enterprise in Burundi. [kelleynikondeha.com](http://kelleynikondeha.com/) Support us on our [Patreon Page](http://www.patreon.com/inverse)

Pádraig Ó Tuama is one of my favourite people in the world. Here he opens up Luke 7:36-50. Pádraig is an accomplished poet, theologian, and mediator. He presents Poetry Unbound with On Being Studios and also has the role of Theologian in Residence for On Being with Krista Tippett. With Paul Doran, Pádraig co-founded the storytelling event Tenx9. For a list of the many more wonderful things he’s involved be sure to visit: [padraigotuama.com](http://www.padraigotuama.com) Support us on our [Patreon Page](http://www.patreon.com/inverse)

The book of Revelation is used by televangelist to do untold craziness. Yet our mate Dr. Wess Daniels’ new book “Resisting Empire” asks, "what if the book of Revelation was rescued from revenge fantasies to again encourage Christ-like communities to resist the dehumanising forces of empire?" C. Wess Daniels is the William R. Rogers Director of Friends Center & Quaker Studies at Guilford College. He lives in Greensboro, North Carolina with his wife, Emily, and their three children and three chickens. Wess is interested in strategizing better human interactions, spiritual development, and revitalization of tradition and community. Support us on our [Patreon Page](http://www.patreon.com/inverse)

My dear friend and collaborator, Samuel Sarpiyra, is an award winning Nigerian peacemaker, church planter, Kingian community organiser and entrepreneur. Samuel inspires me! Samuel opens up for us Matthew 9:35-38 and we discuss community development in South Africa, church planting in America, and his work confronting and transforming police violence. For more, visit his website: https://nonviolencect.com Support us on our [Patreon Page](http://www.patreon.com/inverse)

New co-host Dr. Drew Hart and Jarrod McKenna open up Matthew 27 with public theologian and advocate Ekemini Uwan. www.sistamatictheology.com Support us on our [Patreon Page](http://www.patreon.com/inverse)

Jarrod kicks off season 3 by introducing his new Inverse co-host, Dr. Drew Hart. Support us on our [Patreon Page](http://www.patreon.com/inverse)

To support us via Patreon: [www.patreon.com/InVerse](https://www.patreon.com/InVerse/overview) Alice Fraser, corporate law drop out, comedian, in fact the smartest in Australia. Makes jokes in bios about being a terrible banjo player. She likes ideas. She's an idea-interested obsessive. She's also a fellow podcaster: [Tea With Alice](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/tea-with-alice/id789603540?mt=2) [www.alicecomedyfraser.com](http://www.alicecomedyfraser.com)

John Dear is an American Catholic priest, Nobel Peace Prize nominee, Christian pacifist, vegetarianism advocate, author and lecturer, and a former member of the Society of Jesus. He has been arrested over 75 times in acts of nonviolent civil disobedience against war, injustice and nuclear weapons as part of his "consistent ethic of nonviolence".

Part 2 of our conversation with Ps. Poncho

Ps. Poncho Murguia is the Senior Pastor of Cruz de Gracia in Ciudad Juárez, Mexico, a city notorious for violent crime and drug cartels. Instrumental in bringing transformation to the infamous El CERESO Prison and the prison system there, Poncho's love for this city and love for Christ is evident as you listen to the stories he shares.

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Tom Ballard (@tomcballard) is a supremely funny comedian, unafraid to call out the absurdity found in established systems and powers. Here's our hilarious and timely chat with an incredible talent.

Inverse Patreon Link: [Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/InVerse) [Surrender speech on Racism in the church - My Dream for the Australian Church, Keynote Address Surrender Melbourne](http://surrender.org.au/blog/2016/8/22/my-dream-for-the-australian-church) [2018 The Annual Tinsley lecture, “Reclaiming Community: Mission, Church, and Aboriginal Wisdom”](https://vimeo.com/263100543) [Aboriginal Blessing](https://www.commongrace.org.au/aboriginal_blessing) [Letter to the US Church in Sojourners](https://sojo.net/magazine/august-2019/letters-american-church-dear-sisters-brothers) [Other links](https://www.commongrace.org.au/listening_to_gods_beautiful_earth)